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Tai Robinson Responds to MagneGas Article

President of Intergalactic Hydrogen responds to allegations that a hydrogen economy would be detrimental to breathable oxygen levels on the planet.  Encourages cooperation among alt energy scientists, rather than confrontation.

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Feedback Comment by Tai Robinson

Tai Robinson with his clean-fuel converted Tacoma, setting a world altitude record for a hydrogen vehicle.

 


SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH, USA; August 29, 2006 --
Magna gas is just another term for syn gas, or bio gas, or renewable methane, producer gas, towns gas. Nothing new I can see until I get a few different tank fulls of different blends to burn in my truck for testing. This is not the answer as wild emissions could be made form a person or company with no real-world experience making cleaner fuels. I would be interested to test the power characteristics of magnagas and meet Dr. Rugerro Santilli. Maybe he would like to compare the well to wheels emissions of his MagnaGas Ferrari to my Dad's Hydrogen H2H2 HUMMER? Lets set up a show down! However, I know solar H2 will beat magnagas.
 
Another myth of depleting oxygen due to hydrogen vehicles is that O2 is liberated along with carbon when you reform H2 from CH4. It is amazing the wacky ideas people come up with as resistance to change..... The idea of killing people off the planet in 5-7 years from utilizing hydrogen fuel is ridiculous. Only some of the H2 comes from the methane in the steam reformation process. You also get a lot of O2 liberated from the steam which balances out the O2 that is later recombined by either chemically combining or combusting H2!!!! Loss of O2 because of H2 is about the worst myth ever propagated. I am glad to have a good quote in your article, but saddened to have this quack pot theory from an individual that supports the use of petroleum oil...... Of course, to him it must be justifiable if the ends were magnagas? Not so, petroleum is much more valuable if we use it for durable goods instead of burning it. While our hydrogen must be solar derived which is the most economical way to produce H2 in many regions of the world through renewable energy.
 
More O2 can result out of the tailpipe of pure hydrogen powered ICE's than O2 in the ambient air of metropolitan areas. MagnaGas from fossil sources would create emissions, while burning H2 can produce negative emissions. Yes CO in the hydrogen combustion chamber gets an oxygen atom added in the process, but no CO is formed and NOx emissions from an H2ICE vehicle can be fractions of the NOx produced from petrol combustion engines, therefore keeping the balance of oxygen, not depleting it as Santilli falsely accuses. Therefore, burning H2 is far better than burning any longer-string, or supposed magnetically attracted fuels. Burning hydrogen will make a healthier environment for us to live in.
 
Some of what Santilli is saying is interesting, but very unfortunate he resort to false accusations against H2. Especially since his gas can be composed of it!!!!! What is he trying to say? His assertions only strengthen the division among the cleaner, safer, local fuels that are available for less expense than petrol based fuels today. All of the petroleum displacing fuels need to unite for us to declare victory in the clean fuel revolution. Maybe magnagas can play a role in offering energy independence. However, it better play cleanly if it wants to last. Any gaseous fuels that can lead to the proliferation of more pure hydrogen stations can be commended. Hanging on to the crutch of liquid, long-chain fuels any longer has outlived its usefulness. Time to move on to cleaner, safer, less expensive fuels. Methane is paving the highway to hydrogen today. Biogas, syngas and maybe even magnagas can also lead us to the cleanest, safest, most abundant fuel, H2.
 
The claimed addition of hydrogen to gasoline or diesel is again, nothing new! How do you think they get low sulphur diesel? How do you think they sweeten up heavy, sour crude oil? You got it, from our friend hydrogen. "Hy-gasoline" sounds like a desperate stab at claiming something new that people have just forgotten because they were really created long ago. Did you know the first internal combustion engine automobile on the planet used H2 for fuel, in 1809?
 
The diseases humans have inflicted upon the land can be seen as they are replicated as the diseases within ourselves and loved ones. As we dirty the earths air, our lungs get infections. As we poison our waters our blood gets diseased. Factory farms that produce fear ridden and anything but Whole Foods can not continue for us to live healthy and harmoniously with this, and on this planet. I agree that continued support of repugnant framing practices must be eliminated. The resulting profits of turning unhealthy amounts of waste from an out of balance industry is as morally unacceptable as factory farming itself. If you want to be healthy and happy, treat all living things that way, including the planet. Why do people have an aversion to utilizing human waste? I guess if it is known that our humane waste actually has value maybe the people will be herded up! Oh wait, many people already are.
 
I am glad you got to interview Dr. Roy McAlister. He definitely responded in a responsible manner and shed light on the subject. I would have to back the creation of projects demonstrating and utilizing the hydrogen from "Biased Anaerobic Digestion." It is time enough to leave our liquid fuel past behind us. Embracing the gaseous fuel future now answers many of the worlds problems while creating wealth for our economy. Oh yeah, we get cleaner air while living happier, healthier, prosperous lives at the same time building a viable industry and contributing to our healthy economy. Those darn side effects of logical ecolonomic development.....
 
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Thank You!

Tai W. Robinson ::: Clean Fuel Specialist
www.IntergalacticHydrogen.com
www.H2go.info
801-201-7370

Intergalactic Hydrogen provides MADE-IN-USA renewable energy products & cleaner fuel options that work with today's infrastructure and beyond. We build multi-fuel, hydrogen, methane, propane, electric, biodiesel and ethanol automobiles, appliances and infrastructure. We promote the clean fuel revolution through educational workshops and engineering consultation. Reduce your footprint on the planet with American Fuel Vehicles (AFV's) and declare your energy independence.

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